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mijk

this makes me sick...

mijk

Stephanie in PR

It just kills me how any one, but particularly someone who calls themselves a Christian, could be in favor of traumatizing a child by severing or damaging his or her parental bonds.

And, like you, I don't get how judges and so on can support this stuff. You don't have to like other states adoptions, marriages, etc, but you do have to honor them. That's the way the country works and that *should* be the end of the story.

malinda

Shannon,

Are you sure you're not a lawyer?! Great post!

malinda
an actual lawyer!

marta

this sort of behavior has always broken my heart too.

i'm eager to see what, if anything, the florida supreme court does.

Dana

Ugh. The sad thing is, this isn't an isolated instance of lesbian/"ex-lesbian" moms behaving badly in breakups. I did a compilation myself recently (though somehow missed this Florida case): http://www.mombian.com/2009/04/30/enough-already/

Sara

This story breaks my heart too. Poor kids. I agree every point of your analysis. The whole situation just sucks, and all of the adults involved (including the judge) should have known better.

Brittany

This is a very sad story and very frustrating given the presence of legal adoption.

I have to say the thought of "grandparent rights" (in terms of getting court orders) rubs me wrong, but then again I had a very controlling mother and an early pregnancy where I was threatened with it if I didn't do what she wanted me to do, which was leave my child with them and move away to college. (And a lawyer told it was baseless, but still.)

Lori

Any other adoptive families crossing Florida off the "potential places to move" list?

I remember an older movie (80s? early 90s? ) called "What Makes a Family" It was set in Florida. Hard to believe Florida has made 0 progress since the movie was made.

Lori

Ok the movie was 2001. I must be in a time warp because it seems like a really, really long time ago that I first saw it ( yes, I am a sucker for Lifetime movies)

Johannah

One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet, is the impact this has on the children as one another's siblings. I don't know how old they are, but they know one another as siblings. It's a terrible thing to lose a brother or sister- especially one going through the same trauma your are experiencing- at the same time as you lose a parent.

Jody

Ugh. But this is also one of those reasons why "something like marriage" is NOT a replacement for marriage. Because LOTS of people would make bad choices about their kids if the state didn't step up and require them to do the right thing. Being "not-quite" or "only-sort-of" gets internalized, in ways you don't even realize until the day you go "all the way" (which is why even straight people who get married after decades of togetherness admit, in some surprise, that it just feels different).

Not everyone is going to turn around and hurt their family, just because they can. Marriage isn't necessary for a loving lifelong union. But damnit, it matters, having the state put its power behind your family system, and the only good thing I can say about a heartbreaking case like this is, one by one, these cases are going to crack DOMA all to pieces, and one day that damn evil law will be gone.

lorrie

Y'don't say? I have a friend who considers herself straight who is married (not legally) to a legal woman who has lived as a man for many years. She was a little too open on an adoptive listserve when they live in Florida and someone called SOCIAL SERVICES and they had the JACK BOOTED STORM TROOPERS from social service investigating whether or not two LESBOS were living in SIN. They had to show the SW that they had separate bedrooms and they had to swear that KINKY THINGS WERE NOT HAPPENING IN THIS PLACE WITH INNOCENT MINOR CHILDREN.

The mind, it does boggle. The same agency managed to lose several children, you may remember.

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