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If that is the question, does this individual also have another question: why have children at all?

Life is pain, regardless of how we enter this world, who are parents are or whether we are with an adoptive family or our birth family.

People have children because life is not just pain. It is also joy.

Sadie

Shannon, every so often you blow me away.

Thank you for this.

Allie

It is perhaps wise to remember that pain comes, invited or not, into all our lives. People can assume that they are taking the least 'dangerous', most 'mainstream', of paths and find themselves struggling in the day to day with the unexpected. No-one knows when ill-health or loss of some kind will visit their family.

I believe, as a parent, the job is to glory in the joyful moments with your children and be a rock through the pain. You won't be able to predict the joy or the pain. You have to be ready for both. You won't always manage that perfectly. That is the reality for all kinds of parents, is it not?

Judy

This is just amazing. Thank you.

I stand by "everything worthwhile in my life has come with some pain involved, has come with some fight from me" -- from adoption (though I didn't know much about it then) to fighting my way to life from a very serious cancer last year. Pain? It's a part of life. We can't escape it.

I love this post. I'd love to link to it.

Lisa V

Damn girl. Brilliant again. And again what I wanted to say and couldn't figure out eloquently. These last couple of posts are huge, huge keepers.

And as for the unnecessary adoptions- who gets to judge if they are necessary? It still is a choice issue and women should have that choice free of the judgment of others. I may think a woman's life is perfectly capable of raising a child, but she may not. Even knowing options on and on. She may choose to terminate or place. That still gets to be her decision and I won't judge it by calling it unnecessary. She may change her mind at seem point and deem it that, but it's not up to me.

marta

Shannon, I'm sending you a quick separate note via email, but I just feel compelled to come out of the woodwork and say amen, sister. These two posts are you at your very shining best, and I thank you for them.

B mama

Thanks for this.

Johannah

This bit- "I am beginning to feel that as far as ethics go, the less desirable a child on the "adoption market," the more ethical the adoption (as a rule of thumb)." is what I was trying to say in my comment to the last post but in a far more garbled way. And I heartily second your entire post. My children are full of contradictions and difficulties- and yes, losses around their adoption- but they are my children and despite everything all of our lives are vastly enriched for the presence of each other- every member of our complicated, extended, family. And that is worth anything.

rosemary Starr

I really enjoyed both this post and "Why Adopt". You have done an excellent job of wading through these complicated and emotionally charged issues. We're all learning together and I'm grateful that you shared your views!

Mei-Ling

"It still is a choice issue and women should have that choice free of the judgment of others."

But for those of us in IA, there is NO WAY of knowing if the mother actually chose to relinquish. We don't know if it was necessary. For all we know, the agency has promoted lied, and we walk in blindly without even realizing we have the blinders on.

Lisa V

Mei-Ling, I really wasn't speaking to IA, because while there are similarities to domestic adoption, it is as you point out a totally different situation. Most truly don't anything at all about how the adoptions came about.

Mei-Ling

Of course, of course.

Jessica

Yes

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