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rabi

definitely interested in the books. (especially the kid ones, but because I like to read them...)

Beate

You are right to emphasize the fact that race can be studied academically and has a large body of literature with which to engage. Also, I too have had experiences of having to redirect classroom discussion when students relied on the one visible minority student to educate them. That said, I think that a reasonable grasp of how race matters in this country requires personal narratives in addition to social science. These may be easier to come by in the humanities. But I guess what I'm getting at is that my understanding of class, based on social science, has been deepened by my growing up (as a deacon's kid) next to a housing project, and later in a small village, in a country where class talk is fairly common. Race segregation in the US, I find, makes it far more difficult for me to get the same qualitative understanding of race that I have of class. I've had the occasional experience of a minority student nearly APOLOGIZING when s/he pointed out racist barriers that might limit certain job opportunities.

Anyway, thanks a lot for indulging me on this issue and penning a number of really thoughtful posts on it.

art-sweet

Definitely interested in your book list!

Emmie (Better Make It A Double)

What a beautiful, though-provoking post. Thank you.

Tracy

Sometimes, when I talk about adopting our daughter with little kids, I refer to her bio-mom as her "tummy mommy". I don't know if that helps you any, but at any rate, I think you gave the appropriate answer to that little girl!

Shannon

Thank you for this dialgoue. I could read/write/talk about these issues all day. Both of my daughters were born in open adoptions. We're white. (And I must add that being boilded down to a single color has always rubbed me the wrong way. We're actually Italian/Irish and Italian/Irish/French. Recent DNA studies show that none of us have any idea how White, Black or Other we really are. Some of us have more African genes than Eastern European genes even though our skin indicates the contrary).

We live in a very alternative-thinking small city, but racially it's not diverse. We go out of our way to socialize in the most diverse part of town just to give ourselves the opportunity to see some color. It's a global thing. We did this with D, our oldest, because we value diversity. We had no idea three years later our youngest would look so different than us. When people see Z's black baby dolls they're often surprised to learn they were passed down from D. Giving D black dolls was a way for us to support and embrace the fact that not all families look alike. Then along came Z and our practices were taken to a whole new level.

An acquaintence once said of Z in front of D, "She's yours? Was she adopted?" It was a shock to the system. I said, "Why do you ask?" - "Because she looks so different than you and D" - "Not all of us look alike," I said with (forced) cheer, "Right, D?" Then I launched into this whole thing about race in this country and why is skin color the number one identifier for so many of us, and have you considered X, and thought about Y and Z. Sometimes when we're with my sister and her (bio) children (one is African American, the other West Indian) people assume Z is their little sister and that my sister and/or I are their adoptive or foster moms. It's very mysterious to me since in this day and age I know better to assume such things. But generally speaking we live in a supportive, forward-thinking community so we count ourselves lucky.

Thanks for reminding me that skin color does not make one an expert on Race Relations in the U.S.

I look forward to your book list!

lorrie

1/2 black and 1/2 white progressive and liberal Montessori school (Yes! Popular and prestigious! In SOUTH CAROLINA! BOOYAH!)...Now Mad is in a Catholic school for 3rd grade..the different colors of the rainbow are tapering off

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